and barack obama is very authentic. that undergirded us in many ways, and even in this campaign. people felt comfortable with who he was. they were not going to be surprised by him. they knew what drove him. and they felt comfortable. >> another question from this side. >> after a the citizens united supreme court decision, there was a lot of worry about the effect this would have on campaigns, especially with the effect of super donors giving millions and millions of dollars to one campaign. i was wondering to what extent did super pacs affect both sides? are those fears -- how founded are they? how much have they come to light? i am wondering about your views in general. >> the thing to be hopeful about is that a billion dollars or so were spent and then a billion more on the wrong side. and we were able to win. hundreds of millions of dollars were spent against democratic candidates by some of these big republican superta pacs. there were democratic super almost all of their targets, kens lost. the date gran i do not think that money -- that put enormous pressure on the democr